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Anything she can do... by StickFigureQueen

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Looks like a fun wallpaper. Is it a wallpaper? ^^;

The coloring job on this one seems great, and the mane, tail, and cloak are well done to suggest that Trixie is gonna cause quite a mess.

Sometimes, part of making great art is not just being able to use space, but being able to make use of unused space (i.e. negative space). We could move Trixie to the right so her eyes are 1/3rds of the width of this piece from the left edge. We can easily think of the edges of a piece to be a little wall, and cropping too closely to a character can make a piece feel... cramped. Moving Trixie with compositional techniques in mind like that should probably make this piece feel more dynamic.

Anatomy-wise, we ought to be more careful about leg proportions. They are differently shaped. The back legs are also proportioned to look like human legs. What would the legs look like if you drew what's cropped out? Whatever it looks, it would look really odd and will probably look longer than the front legs. I also think Trixie could benefit from having white teeth considering the sort of coloring style you went with. If you didn't shade this, leaving them uncolored might work better IMO.

Overall, it kinda feels like one of those pieces I can't really have any strong opinions as this isn't particularly bad, save for the slightly cramped cropping to our left and some weird leg anatomy. While I can't be completely sure how moving Trixie to the right would change my impression, but if there's still something missing, there's the possibility of including a second character to create a little story with just one image.
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StickFigureQueen Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I cropped out the back legs because I couldn't make them look right and yes, I made this as a wallpaper for myself :p thanks for your critique! I'll keep it in mind for next time
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Pix3M Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012   Digital Artist
Couldn't make them look right? You could just base the proportions off of FiM-styled legs.
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StickFigureQueen Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
but that would go against the whole 'draw this in my style' thing...
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Pix3M Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012   Digital Artist
Pardon the snark, but didn't your style for back legs didn't work out well enough so you had to cut them out?

The legs you had a bit of difficulty with is still based off of real and actual legs. It can help to refer to FiM-style legs to have an idea of how long each individual bone is and where joints are, or maybe even refer to back legs of a real horse.

Oh, and come to think of it, does the thought of your pony face style resembling wolves seem to cross your mind? =p
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Ruaniamh Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
No need to be rude about it. "Pardon the snark" does not negate the snarkiness and make it any less rude.
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Daedric-Pony Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012   Digital Artist
Hey relax, he's just trying to help. There ARE references that can help you design your own style of equine limbs.
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StickFigureQueen Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Refer to fim style legs....seriously? They look nothing like a real horses legs. I don't pardon your snark that was a little rude, I couldn't make them look right because the sketch for this piece was done in about 20 minutes between the time I was working on my thesis and when I had to go to work. I wanted to get it done and coloured asap so I could get back to working on something that kinda decides my future. I'm sorry that it's not up to your standards with my use of space etc, but I did this for some relaxation. Given time I'd have changed it.

It's got nothing to do with my preferred style of drawing ponies if I struggle to make something look right, there are hundred of artists on dA with their own style that struggle occasionally and that's not because they draw something differently. Personally I always struggle with poses, people who only do fim style can look at the episodes and get a reference for virtually any pose. Developing your own style is harder, just so you know, you don't have that resource.

I'm not sure if that wolves comment was meant to be insulting or not....

(Saying pardon the snark, does not make it any less rude or ok. I am actually offended by that comment)
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FuyusFox Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't entirely think that they were trying to be rude.

All they were saying was maybe referencing some other pony's back legs might help. They weren't saying copy the show or the style at all, just that you should look and see how they might do their legs. Also, they did mention that using a real horse's back legs as reference could work just as well.

I understand the whole 'finding your own style' bit, but references can help, no matter where they're from. And, as they pointed out, the style you were using wasn't working, so what could researching hurt.

Along the same lines, you said you did this in 20 minutes? It's definitely better than what I could do. But I have to wonder, why did you have to finish it right then? Surely you could have paused for a little bit, done what work you needed, and cleaned it up afterwards.

I think it's a very good work, just some minor tweaks here and there.

Yes 'pardon the snark' doesn't excuse rudeness, but in all honesty this person is just trying to help.
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StickFigureQueen Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1. Like I said before, it's not my style that's not working, i didn't have time to work it out, sketches usually take me hours to get right.
2. I do use references, all the time. They're just harder to find ones because real horses don't do fantastical poses.
3. Like I said in my other answer I'M DOING MY THESIS. It is due in less than a week and I have to finish it. MORE IMPORTANT.
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FuyusFox Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
1. You didn't have to do it all in one sitting.
2. Well from what I read it didn't sound like that. Sorry if I came off annoying in that regard. I understand the pose thing though. It's usually pretty hard to find references of just the right pose. But still, the show does do some poses that could work and you can always just see how they did it.
3. Like I said, you didn't have to work on it all in one sitting. Work on it intermittently. I didn't say disregard the thesis, I only stated that you could have put down the artwork, worked on your project, and started it up another time. Artwork can be an awesome relaxer when it comes to stress, having a large artwork piece lets you break it up over a longer period of time.

Honestly though, I do really like the piece but I can see where Pix3M was coming from.
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Pix3M Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012   Digital Artist
Sorry! I actually have a difficult time knowing when I'm being rude sometimes.

I probably should have been more straight-forward. Styles in a sense has to convincingly have resemblance to the original thing, although your style doesn't have any major problems with that and a lot of people do like your stuff. But, a lot of other artists who start out trying to develop their own style often don't look at what they're stylizing to begin with, or even look at other stylizations that have been shown to work.

I'm kinda guilty of this when I was starting out drawing humans with. I didn't use references but I wanted to develop my own style. I kept disliking my results because there were subtle things that just made them look uncanny... and they kinda scare me when I look at them. I kinda tripped over the same mistake when I wanted to jump back at humans again, but since I wasn't concerned about realism and wanted to take a shot at my own style again... well... I now hate the results and I'm probably thinking about deleting it. You can find it in my browse folder if you're curious to see the piece of crap. Kinda shameful as somebody who knows much more about art than I do told me that I gotta use references because I really needed to know what I'm exactly drawing. I kinda still wanna be good at a style that sits between real and stylized, but I figured that I gotta understand proper anatomy first so I don't hate my results when I fall pretty short.

What I meant about that wolf remark was that your noses are kinda shaped like one. A horse's nose sloped down quite a lot and has a bulgy lower back jaw. A wolf's nose does not slope downward that much and does not have that prominent bulge in the back of their lower jaw. I think it's an observation that's worth keeping in mind.
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StickFigureQueen Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
1. Trust me I've looked at plenty of styles, it doesn't have to resemble the original style I have to be comfortable with it, I've developed the way I do this over the course of the last year and if you actually look through my gallery you can see that. It's still a work in progress. I don't care if you don't think it 'works' that's an opinion.

2. The idea of realism in relation to MLP FiM is a little silly, my ponies are more realistic in terms of real horses than the show so I think that's a moot point.

3. I don't see why you're trying to get me to change my style with the "noses do this" comment, so what if it doesn't work for you, that's fine. But it works for me. Respect that. (Don't see you complaining about how FiM style doesn't resemble a real horses nose) IT'S A STYLE. NOT ACCURATE.
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Pix3M Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012   Digital Artist
Better yet, we probably shouldn't be making any more replies as I'll just end up sending back more replies if I keep receiving them :crying:
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Pix3M Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012   Digital Artist
FiM style doesn't need to resemble actual horses because it has a different aesthetic goal. Their eyes are greatly exaggerated in size but their noses are tiny. Then, add a low head-to-height ratio and other round features then there you go - something that is cute because larger eyes, smaller nose, smaller head-to-height ratios, and chubbiness are what we see in babies.
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